Comments on: Pastors… learn from Wright’s mistakes. http://shanevanderhart.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/pastors-learn-from-wrights-mistakes/ Stimulating musings from a Jesus-loving caffeine addict. Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:30:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Lance Gargus http://shanevanderhart.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/pastors-learn-from-wrights-mistakes/#comment-1172 Lance Gargus Sat, 03 May 2008 04:33:23 +0000 http://shanevanderhart.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/pastors-learn-from-wrights-mistakes/#comment-1172 Very good thoughts! Very good thoughts!

]]> By: Shane Vander Hart http://shanevanderhart.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/pastors-learn-from-wrights-mistakes/#comment-1171 Shane Vander Hart Fri, 02 May 2008 19:40:31 +0000 http://shanevanderhart.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/pastors-learn-from-wrights-mistakes/#comment-1171 Drew & Steve - good thoughts. Steve I agree there are lessons to be learned by many people not just pastors. I also wouldn't put Obama in the victim category either. Twenty years is a long time not to know Rev. Wright's character. Drew & Steve - good thoughts. Steve I agree there are lessons to be learned by many people not just pastors. I also wouldn’t put Obama in the victim category either. Twenty years is a long time not to know Rev. Wright’s character.

]]> By: Christian Striver http://shanevanderhart.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/pastors-learn-from-wrights-mistakes/#comment-1169 Christian Striver Fri, 02 May 2008 19:15:35 +0000 http://shanevanderhart.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/pastors-learn-from-wrights-mistakes/#comment-1169 Ah the tongue has undone so many men. We all would be wise to take Thabiti's counsel to heart, but especially his thoughts on taming the tongue. Most of us are quick to speak, especially about matters that we're passionate about, and slow to consider the impact those words will have on others. If there is such a thing as a communicative law, it is that you can't take back words after they have come out of your mouth. Pastors, youth workers, teachers, parents, ... everyone really, should consider the lasting impact of their words; the playground rhyme is wrong - words can, and do, hurt. As for the impact Rev. Wright's words are having on Obama, I don't think blaming Wright is entirely appropriate. He certainly isn't helping matters for Obama, but is Barack a victim here? He chose Wright's church and stuck around for many years. I've heard the tired argument about Obama simply trying to establish himself in the Black community and I don't buy it. Wright is not representative of the mainstream Black church. Obama could, and should, have aligned himself with those who do rather than following Rev. Wright. Maybe that could be Thabiti's point #6) Chose the company you keep very carefully. To use Wright's phraseology, I think Obama's "chickens are coming home to roost." Maybe Ah the tongue has undone so many men. We all would be wise to take Thabiti’s counsel to heart, but especially his thoughts on taming the tongue. Most of us are quick to speak, especially about matters that we’re passionate about, and slow to consider the impact those words will have on others. If there is such a thing as a communicative law, it is that you can’t take back words after they have come out of your mouth. Pastors, youth workers, teachers, parents, … everyone really, should consider the lasting impact of their words; the playground rhyme is wrong - words can, and do, hurt.

As for the impact Rev. Wright’s words are having on Obama, I don’t think blaming Wright is entirely appropriate. He certainly isn’t helping matters for Obama, but is Barack a victim here? He chose Wright’s church and stuck around for many years. I’ve heard the tired argument about Obama simply trying to establish himself in the Black community and I don’t buy it. Wright is not representative of the mainstream Black church. Obama could, and should, have aligned himself with those who do rather than following Rev. Wright. Maybe that could be Thabiti’s point #6) Chose the company you keep very carefully. To use Wright’s phraseology, I think Obama’s “chickens are coming home to roost.” Maybe

]]> By: Drew Hill http://shanevanderhart.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/pastors-learn-from-wrights-mistakes/#comment-1167 Drew Hill Fri, 02 May 2008 13:47:54 +0000 http://shanevanderhart.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/pastors-learn-from-wrights-mistakes/#comment-1167 Thoughtful, sobering words. It seems the bigger the audience, the grander the stage, the more our overgrown ego is likely to be exposed. How many great, sincere servants of God have eventually confused God's voice with their own and discredited the Gospel and their years of faithful ministry? I don't agree with Brother Wright on many of his views, but I grieve the outcome of his recent tirades. He has spent his life and ministry trying desperately to be taken seriously. Now, he has pretty well guaranteed that he will never be taken seriously again. Thoughtful, sobering words. It seems the bigger the audience, the grander the stage, the more our overgrown ego is likely to be exposed. How many great, sincere servants of God have eventually confused God’s voice with their own and discredited the Gospel and their years of faithful ministry? I don’t agree with Brother Wright on many of his views, but I grieve the outcome of his recent tirades. He has spent his life and ministry trying desperately to be taken seriously. Now, he has pretty well guaranteed that he will never be taken seriously again.

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